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'''''Yoshihiro SD''''' is a T-Spin setup involving an EZ T-Spin Single that leads into a T-Spin Double.  
'''Yoshihiro SD''' is a [[T-Spin]] setup involving an T-Spin Mini Single that leads into a T-Spin Double.  
 
Note, on [[Tetris Friends]], and modern [[Tetris Guideline]] games released after 2007, T-Spin Minis do contribute to back-to-back chain but will not send lines. It will not even send lines if it is back-to-back, such as doing a Tetris before a T-Spin Mini. Therefore, Yoshihiro SD is a deprecated strategy suited to older games like [[Tetris DS]].
 
== General tips ==
== General tips ==
*[[Multiplayer Techniques#Timing|Timing]] - Practice making the T-spins with consecutive tetrominoes to send garbage in big clumps whenever possible. Try holding the first T tetromino in the hold box while you wait for the second. Then make both T-spins very quickly. This is good to keep in mind but can't always be done.
*[[Multiplayer Techniques#Timing|Timing]] - Practice making the T-spins with consecutive tetrominoes to send garbage in big clumps whenever possible. Try holding the first T tetromino in the hold box while you wait for the second. Then make both T-spins very quickly. This is good to keep in mind but can't always be done.


== Situational Setups ==
== Situational setups ==


=== Setting The Base ===
=== Base setup ===


==== Filling The Gap ====
==== Filling the gap ====
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==== Line Clear Method ====
==== Line clear method ====
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==== Platform Method ====
==== Platform method ====
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==== T-Spin Single Method ====
==== T-Spin Single method ====
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=== Creating The Overhang ===
=== Creating the overhang ===
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=== Execution ===
=== Execution ===
EZ T-Spin Single
T-Spin Mini Single
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== Reverse Yoshihiro ==
== Reverse Yoshihiro ==
This is usually more effective than [[T-Spin Triple Setups#Openings|JT/TL T-Spin Triple]] because while both setups require 2 T pieces, the Yoshihiro sends 1 extra line of garbage and doesn't leave an overhang behind.
This is usually more effective than [[T-Spin Triple Setups#Openings|JT/TL T-Spin Triple]] because while both setups require 2 T-pieces, the Yoshihiro sends 1 extra line of garbage and doesn't leave an overhang behind.
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Continuing from the left diagram above. Soft drop a T on the left side of the playing field, then as soon as it lands rotate it like shown for a T-spin single. Make sure to rotate the T before it locks into place. After the bottom row clears you'll see that a T-spin double formation is set up. While waiting on your next T tetrimino you can fill things up in preparation for a finishing tetris.
Continuing from the left diagram above. Soft drop a T on the left side of the playing field, then as soon as it lands rotate it like shown for a T-spin single. Make sure to rotate the T before it locks into place. After the bottom row clears you'll see that a T-spin double formation is set up. While waiting on your next T-piece you can fill things up in preparation for a finishing tetris.
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And now the almighty tetris
And a Tetris
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WOOT!
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=== T-spin Single Double Double Triple ===
=== T-Spin Single Double Double Triple ===


This can be used as an alternative to [[T-Spin Double Setups#Openings|T-spin Double Double Double Triple]] in the scenario when an I piece doesn't come early enough. In this situation the I can come as the 7th piece (but you still need a J or L fairly early). Watch out for the 2nd S piece when setting up this particular way (Z if reversed), and make sure you hold it, even if it means using the 2nd T piece for a T-spin single. There can be some variations in the setup, and it just takes practice to learn them.
This can be used as an alternative to [[T-Spin Double Setups#Openings|T-spin Double Double Double Triple]] in the scenario when an I piece doesn't come early enough. In this situation the I can come as the 7th piece (but you still need a J or L fairly early). Watch out for the 2nd S piece when setting up this particular way (Z if reversed), and make sure you hold it, even if it means using the 2nd T piece for a T-spin single. There can be some variations in the setup, and it just takes practice to learn them.
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== Alternatives ==
== Alternatives ==


=== T-Spin Double Replacements ===
=== T-Spin Double replacements ===


'''T-Spin Triple'''
'''T-Spin Triple'''
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=== Follow Ups ===
=== Follow ups ===
'''Yoshihiro ST Arrow'''
'''Yoshihiro ST Arrow'''
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=== Bailing Out ===
=== Bailing out ===
'''J Base TSD'''
'''J Base TSD'''
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== External Links ==
[[Category:T-Spin setups]]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX1jgH-spnk Watch] Hitokage, one of the top TDS players in the world, perform the Yoshihiro SD starting at 1:11 in this video.
[[Category:T-Spin Mini setups]]
 
[[Category:T-Spin Methods]]
[[Category:T-Spin Kick Methods]]
[[Category:Back-to-Back T-Spin setups]]
[[Category:Back-to-Back T-Spin setups]]

Latest revision as of 05:11, 29 October 2019

Yoshihiro SD is a T-Spin setup involving an T-Spin Mini Single that leads into a T-Spin Double.

Note, on Tetris Friends, and modern Tetris Guideline games released after 2007, T-Spin Minis do contribute to back-to-back chain but will not send lines. It will not even send lines if it is back-to-back, such as doing a Tetris before a T-Spin Mini. Therefore, Yoshihiro SD is a deprecated strategy suited to older games like Tetris DS.

General tips

  • Timing - Practice making the T-spins with consecutive tetrominoes to send garbage in big clumps whenever possible. Try holding the first T tetromino in the hold box while you wait for the second. Then make both T-spins very quickly. This is good to keep in mind but can't always be done.

Situational setups

Base setup

Filling the gap

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGGOO
GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGJ
GGGGGGJJJ
GGGG
GGGGG
GGGGG
GGGGZZ
GGGGGZZ
GGGGGIIII
GGGGG
GGGGGG  G
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGZZ
GGGGGGZZG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGG   G
GGGGG  GG
GGGGGGGGG
    TTT
GGGGGTSSG
GGGGGSSGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGG    G
GGGGG  GG
GGGGGGGGG
     SS
GGGGSSSSG
GGGGGSSGG
GGGGGGGGG

Line clear method

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG  G
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGGOOG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGJJ
GGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGJJJ
GGGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG G
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGLLL
GGGGGGGLG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGLG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGS
GGGGGGGGSS
GGGGGGGGGS
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGS
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGZZ
GGGGGGGGZZ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGZZ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGTTT
GGGGGGGGT
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGT

Platform method

G G G G G
      J
      JJJ
G G G G G
GGGGGGJ
GGGGGGJJJ
GGGGGGG G

T-Spin Single method

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPPP
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGT

Creating the overhang

     OO
     OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

O-1

   IIII
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

I-1

    J
    JJJ
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

J-1

     JJ
GGGGGJ
GGGGGJG
GGGGGGGGG

J-2

      J
      J
GGGGGJJ
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

J-3

    JJJ
GGGGGGJ
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

J-4

      L
    LLL
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

L-1

    LLL
GGGGLG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

L-2

     L
     L
GGGGGLL
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

L-3

     LL
GGGGGGL
GGGGGGL
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

L-4

     SS
GGGGSS
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

S-1

     S
     SS
GGGGGGS
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

S-2

      Z
     ZZ
GGGGGZ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

Z-1

    ZZ
GGGGGZZ
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

Z-2

     T
    TTT
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

T-1

     T
     TT
GGGGGT
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

T-2

    TTT
GGGGGT
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

T-3

      T
     TT
GGGGGGT
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

T-4

Execution

T-Spin Mini Single

     GG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
     GG
GGGGGG  P
GGGGGGGPPP
GGGGGGGGG
     GG
GGGGGG   P
GGGGGGG PP
GGGGGGGGGP
     GG
GGGGGG   T
GGGGGGG TT

T-Spin Double

     GG
GGGGGG   T
GGGGGGG TT
     GGP
GGGGGG PPT
GGGGGGGPTT
     GG
GGGGGGPPPT
GGGGGGGPTT
     GG

Reverse Yoshihiro

This is usually more effective than JT/TL T-Spin Triple because while both setups require 2 T-pieces, the Yoshihiro sends 1 extra line of garbage and doesn't leave an overhang behind.

GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGPP L
GGGGGGPLLL
GGGGGGT
GGGGGGTT L
      OO
      OO
GGGGGGTPPP
GGGGGGTTPL

Openings

SD Tetris

The benefit of this setup is that it requires very little foresight. At any time during the setup, you can abandon the entire thing and focus on tetrising or clearing garbage. The completed setup sends 12 lines of garbage to the other player, and should require around 20 tetriminos from start to finish. It is recommended that you try this only if you get a J or L piece very early in the game. Possible setups

   ZZ    J
    ZZ SSJ
   LOOSSJJ
 LLLOOIIII
I    SS
I ZZSS
IOOZZLJ
IOOLLLJJJ

Continuing from the left diagram above. Soft drop a T on the left side of the playing field, then as soon as it lands rotate it like shown for a T-spin single. Make sure to rotate the T before it locks into place. After the bottom row clears you'll see that a T-spin double formation is set up. While waiting on your next T-piece you can fill things up in preparation for a finishing tetris.

   GG    G
 T  GG GGG
TTTGGGGGGG
 GGGGGGGGG
   GG    G
T   GG GGG
TT GGGGGGG
TGGGGGGGGG
   GG    G
T   GG GGG
TT GGGGGGG

Possible continuation

      S
I     SS
I    ZZSOO
I  JJJZZOO
I  GGJLLLG
G   GGLGGG
GG GGGGGGG
      G
G     GG
G    GGGGG
G  GGGGGGG
G  GGGGGGG
GTTTGGGGGG
GGTGGGGGGG
      G
G     GG
G    GGGGG
G  GGGGGGG
G  GGGGGGG

And a Tetris

   SSZG OO
G SSZZGGOO
G JJZGGGGG
G JGGGGGGG
G JGGGGGGG
   GGGG GG
GIGGGGGGGG
GIGGGGGGGG
GIGGGGGGGG
GIGGGGGGGG
   GGGG GG
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T-Spin Single Double Double Triple

This can be used as an alternative to T-spin Double Double Double Triple in the scenario when an I piece doesn't come early enough. In this situation the I can come as the 7th piece (but you still need a J or L fairly early). Watch out for the 2nd S piece when setting up this particular way (Z if reversed), and make sure you hold it, even if it means using the 2nd T piece for a T-spin single. There can be some variations in the setup, and it just takes practice to learn them.

   ZZ
    ZZIIII
   OOSLLJJ
   OOSSLJI
    ZZSLJI
   LJZZOOI
 LLLJJJOOI

Shown after the first 2 T-spins. Here you want to hold onto a J piece if possible.

   ZZ
    ZZIIII
   OOSLLJJ
   OOSSLJI
  LLIIIIOO
   L  S OO
   LZZSSGG
   GGZZSGG
SPPPGGGGGG
SSPGGGGGGG
 S GGGGGGG

T-spin double

  GGGGGGGG
   G  G GG
JJPGGGGGGG
JPPGGGGGGG
JGPGGGGGGG

Now the J, and a T-spin triple

Yoshihiro + Super T-Spin Double

When you find yourself in this situation after the Yoshihiro, try a STSD.

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
       Z
      ZZ
      Z
GGGGGGG LL
GGGGGGG  L
GGGGGGG  L
       G
      GG
      G
GGGGGGGTGG
GGGGGGGTTG
GGGGGGGT G
       G
    OOGG
IIIIOOGTTT
GGGGGGGGTG

Alternatives

T-Spin Double replacements

T-Spin Triple

GGGGGGG
GGGGGG   P
GGGGGGG PP
GGGGGGGGGP
       S
       SS
        SZ
GGGGGGG ZZ
GGGGGG  ZP
GGGGGGG PP
       TTT
        TZ
GGGGGGG ZZ
GGGGGG  ZP
GGGGGGG PP
       JJJ
        TJ
GGGGGGG TT
GGGGGG  TP
GGGGGGG PP
         I
       OOI
       OOI
        TI
GGGGGGG TT
GGGGGG  TP
GGGGGGG PP

Imperial Crossing

GGGGGGG
GGGGGG   P
GGGGGGG PP
GGGGGGGGGP
         L
       LLL
        OO
GGGGGGG OO
GGGGGG   P
GGGGGGG PP
       S
       SSJ
        SJ
GGGGGGG JJ
GGGGGG   P
GGGGGGG PP
        ZI
       ZZI
       ZLI
        LI
GGGGGGG LL
GGGGGG   P
GGGGGGG PP

Ranged Yoshihiro

Range 3

    OO
GGGGOO
GGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
    OO
GGGGOO
GGGGG    L
GGGGGG LLL
GGGGGGGGG
    OO
GGGGOO
GGGGGPPP L
GGGGGGPLLL
GGGGGGGGG
       Z
    OOZZ
GGGGOOZ
GGGGGTTT L
GGGGGGGGG

Range 4

   OO
   OO
GGGG
GGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
   OO
   OO
GGGG     P
GGGGG   PP
GGGGGGGGGP
   OO
   OO
GGGG   SST
GGGGG SSTT
GGGGGGGGG

Follow ups

Yoshihiro ST Arrow

GGGGGS
GGGGGSS
GGGGGGS
GGGGGG   P
GGGGGGG PP
GGGGGGGGGP
GGGGGS
GGGGGSS
GGGGGGS
GGGGGGPPPT
GGGGGGGPTT
GGGGGS
GGGGGSS
GGGGGGS
GGGGGS   Z
GGGGGSS ZZ
GGGGGGS Z
     OO
     OO
GGGGGS   Z
GGGGGSS ZZ
GGGGGGS Z

Bailing out

J Base TSD

     OO
     OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
     OO
     OO  J
GGGGGG   J
GGGGGGG JJ
GGGGGGGGG
     OO
     OO  J
GGGGGGPPPJ
GGGGGGGPJJ
GGGGGGGGG
     OO
     OO  J
GGGGGGGGG

Imperial TSS / TSD-TSS

     OO
     OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
     OO
     OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG LL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGG
     OO
     OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG LL
GGGGGGGGG

Pre-Yoshihiro Kaidan

     OO
     OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
     OO
     OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGG
     OO
     OO
GGGGGG   Z
GGGGGGG ZZ
GGGGGGGGZ
GGGGGGGGG