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:::I'm sure there's a lot of records comparable to that one if one was allowed to add whatever clauses to the condition of measurement, which doesn't come up only because no one cares to do that. I'm sure Quadra can go mighty fast, maybe fastest, but even if the conditions are clearly stated, there doesn't seem to be much point in a fringe-case number like that other than to inflate the superficial impression of speed and undermine its credibility. | :::I'm sure there's a lot of records comparable to that one if one was allowed to add whatever clauses to the condition of measurement, which doesn't come up only because no one cares to do that. I'm sure Quadra can go mighty fast, maybe fastest, but even if the conditions are clearly stated, there doesn't seem to be much point in a fringe-case number like that other than to inflate the superficial impression of speed and undermine its credibility. | ||
::::There are TPM records for a whole marathon. There are TPM records for the first 40 lines of a game. There are records for the first three minutes of a game. There are TPM records for a [[TGM series]] section. So why can't there be TPM records for what amounts to a [[S and Z cascade|TW cascade section]]? --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 23:13, 28 December 2006 (EST) | ::::There are TPM records for a whole marathon. There are TPM records for the first 40 lines of a game. There are records for the first three minutes of a game. There are TPM records for a [[TGM series]] section. So why can't there be TPM records for what amounts to a [[S and Z cascade|TW cascade section]]? --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 23:13, 28 December 2006 (EST) | ||
:::::All the criteria mentioned, except for TGM section times, are distinct modes themselves. And all have fixed rules and baselines that are equal for every game. That makes the conditions equal for all players attempting that mode, which is exactly what makes comparison between records possible. All of them also take into account everything that happens in-game, including x99 level stops, line clear times, ARE, DAS delay, etcetera. In addition to disregarding regularly calculated time values, "Speed until the beginning of a cascade" is way too random for a proper record, as there are no definitions of fixed baselines for neither duration, nor number of lines cleared, nor pieces dropped. It can't even be properly compared with other Quadra records! | |||
Revision as of 05:13, 29 December 2006
"inbetween line clear animations top players have been seen to process tetrominoes of upwards of 260 TPM."
Er, isn't it somewhat hypocritical to write down a speed that ignores the time for line clear animations? I mean every single non-controllable frame is more time for the player to rest and think.
- it doesn't ignore time. it just means time for like thirty something seconds. 65.6.69.235 01:26, 28 December 2006 (EST)
Why limit the scope to right before the line-clearings begin when the game goes on for longer than that? Most other measurements take the entire game from start to finish into account.
- right, but i thought this particular measurement was significant since it's the fastest tpm i've heard of for zero delay. 65.6.69.235 14:05, 28 December 2006 (EST)
- I'm sure there's a lot of records comparable to that one if one was allowed to add whatever clauses to the condition of measurement, which doesn't come up only because no one cares to do that. I'm sure Quadra can go mighty fast, maybe fastest, but even if the conditions are clearly stated, there doesn't seem to be much point in a fringe-case number like that other than to inflate the superficial impression of speed and undermine its credibility.
- There are TPM records for a whole marathon. There are TPM records for the first 40 lines of a game. There are records for the first three minutes of a game. There are TPM records for a TGM series section. So why can't there be TPM records for what amounts to a TW cascade section? --Tepples 23:13, 28 December 2006 (EST)
- All the criteria mentioned, except for TGM section times, are distinct modes themselves. And all have fixed rules and baselines that are equal for every game. That makes the conditions equal for all players attempting that mode, which is exactly what makes comparison between records possible. All of them also take into account everything that happens in-game, including x99 level stops, line clear times, ARE, DAS delay, etcetera. In addition to disregarding regularly calculated time values, "Speed until the beginning of a cascade" is way too random for a proper record, as there are no definitions of fixed baselines for neither duration, nor number of lines cleared, nor pieces dropped. It can't even be properly compared with other Quadra records!
- There are TPM records for a whole marathon. There are TPM records for the first 40 lines of a game. There are records for the first three minutes of a game. There are TPM records for a TGM series section. So why can't there be TPM records for what amounts to a TW cascade section? --Tepples 23:13, 28 December 2006 (EST)
- I'm sure there's a lot of records comparable to that one if one was allowed to add whatever clauses to the condition of measurement, which doesn't come up only because no one cares to do that. I'm sure Quadra can go mighty fast, maybe fastest, but even if the conditions are clearly stated, there doesn't seem to be much point in a fringe-case number like that other than to inflate the superficial impression of speed and undermine its credibility.
- right, but i thought this particular measurement was significant since it's the fastest tpm i've heard of for zero delay. 65.6.69.235 14:05, 28 December 2006 (EST)