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Revision as of 08:46, 12 October 2008

Yoshihiro SD is a T-Spin setup involving an EZ T-Spin Single that leads into a T-Spin Double.

General tips

  • Timing - Practice making the T-spins with consecutive tetrominoes to send garbage in big clumps whenever possible. Try holding the first T tetromino in the hold box while you wait for the second. Then make both T-spins very quickly. This is good to keep in mind but can't always be done.

Situational Setups

Setting The Base

Filling The Gap

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGGOO
GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGJ
GGGGGGJJJ
GGGG
GGGGG
GGGGG
GGGGZZ
GGGGGZZ
GGGGGIIII
GGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGZZ
GGGGGGZZG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
TTT
GGGGGTSSG
GGGGGSSGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
SS
GGGGSSSSG
GGGGGSSGG
GGGGGGGGG

Line Clear Method

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGGOOG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGJJ
GGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGJJJ
GGGGGGGGGJ
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGLLL
GGGGGGGLG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGLG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGS
GGGGGGGGSS
GGGGGGGGGS
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGS
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGZZ
GGGGGGGGZZ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGZZ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGTTT
GGGGGGGGT
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGT

Platform Method

GGGGG
J
JJJ
GGGGG
GGGGGGJ
GGGGGGJJJ
GGGGGGGG

T-Spin Single Method

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPPP
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGT

Creating The Overhang

OO
OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

O-1

IIII
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

I-1

J
JJJ
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

J-1

JJ
GGGGGJ
GGGGGJG
GGGGGGGGG

J-2

J
J
GGGGGJJ
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

J-3

JJJ
GGGGGGJ
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

J-4

L
LLL
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

L-1

LLL
GGGGLG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

L-2

L
L
GGGGGLL
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

L-3

LL
GGGGGGL
GGGGGGL
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

L-4

SS
GGGGSS
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

S-1

S
SS
GGGGGGS
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

S-2

Z
ZZ
GGGGGZ
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

Z-1

ZZ
GGGGGZZ
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

Z-2

T
TTT
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

T-1

T
TT
GGGGGT
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

T-2

TTT
GGGGGT
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

T-3

T
TT
GGGGGGT
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG

T-4

Execution

EZ T-Spin Single

GG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GG
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPPP
GGGGGGGGG
GG
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPP
GGGGGGGGGP
GG
GGGGGGT
GGGGGGGTT

T-Spin Double

GG
GGGGGGT
GGGGGGGTT
GGP
GGGGGGPPT
GGGGGGGPTT
GG
GGGGGGPPPT
GGGGGGGPTT
GG

Reverse Yoshihiro

This is usually more effective than JT/TL T-Spin Triple because while both setups require 2 T pieces, the Yoshihiro sends 1 extra line of garbage and doesn't leave an overhang behind.

GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGPPL
GGGGGGPLLL
GGGGGGT
GGGGGGTTL
OO
OO
GGGGGGTPPP
GGGGGGTTPL

Openings

SD Tetris

The benefit of this setup is that it requires very little foresight. At any time during the setup, you can abandon the entire thing and focus on tetrising or clearing garbage. The completed setup sends 12 lines of garbage to the other player, and should require around 20 tetriminos from start to finish. It is recommended that you try this only if you get a J or L piece very early in the game. Possible setups

ZZJ
ZZSSJ
LOOSSJJ
LLLOOIIII
ISS
IZZSS
IOOZZLJ
IOOLLLJJJ

Continuing from the left diagram above. Soft drop a T on the left side of the playing field, then as soon as it lands rotate it like shown for a T-spin single. Make sure to rotate the T before it locks into place. After the bottom row clears you'll see that a T-spin double formation is set up. While waiting on your next T tetrimino you can fill things up in preparation for a finishing tetris.

GGG
TGGGGG
TTTGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGG
TGGGGG
TTGGGGGGG
TGGGGGGGGG
GGG
TGGGGG
TTGGGGGGG

Possible continuation

S
ISS
IZZSOO
IJJJZZOO
IGGJLLLG
GGGLGGG
GGGGGGGGG
G
GGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GTTTGGGGGG
GGTGGGGGGG
G
GGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG

And now the almighty tetris

SSZGOO
GSSZZGGOO
GJJZGGGGG
GJGGGGGGG
GJGGGGGGG
GGGGGG
GIGGGGGGGG
GIGGGGGGGG
GIGGGGGGGG
GIGGGGGGGG
GGGGGG
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WOOT!

T-spin Single Double Double Triple

This can be used as an alternative to T-spin Double Double Double Triple in the scenario when an I piece doesn't come early enough. In this situation the I can come as the 7th piece (but you still need a J or L fairly early). Watch out for the 2nd S piece when setting up this particular way (Z if reversed), and make sure you hold it, even if it means using the 2nd T piece for a T-spin single. There can be some variations in the setup, and it just takes practice to learn them.

ZZ
ZZIIII
OOSLLJJ
OOSSLJI
ZZSLJI
LJZZOOI
LLLJJJOOI

Shown after the first 2 T-spins. Here you want to hold onto a J piece if possible.

ZZ
ZZIIII
OOSLLJJ
OOSSLJI
LLIIIIOO
LSOO
LZZSSGG
GGZZSGG
SPPPGGGGGG
SSPGGGGGGG
SGGGGGGG

T-spin double

GGGGGGGG
GGGG
JJPGGGGGGG
JPPGGGGGGG
JGPGGGGGGG

Now the J, and a T-spin triple

Yoshihiro + Super T-Spin Double

When you find yourself in this situation after the Yoshihiro, try a STSD.

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGG
Z
ZZ
Z
GGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGL
G
GG
G
GGGGGGGTGG
GGGGGGGTTG
GGGGGGGTG
G
OOGG
IIIIOOGTTT
GGGGGGGGTG

Alternatives

T-Spin Double Replacements

T-Spin Triple

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPP
GGGGGGGGGP
S
SS
SZ
GGGGGGGZZ
GGGGGGZP
GGGGGGGPP
TTT
TZ
GGGGGGGZZ
GGGGGGZP
GGGGGGGPP
JJJ
TJ
GGGGGGGTT
GGGGGGTP
GGGGGGGPP
I
OOI
OOI
TI
GGGGGGGTT
GGGGGGTP
GGGGGGGPP

Imperial Crossing

GGGGGGG
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPP
GGGGGGGGGP
L
LLL
OO
GGGGGGGOO
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPP
S
SSJ
SJ
GGGGGGGJJ
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPP
ZI
ZZI
ZLI
LI
GGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPP

Ranged Yoshihiro

Range 3

OO
GGGGOO
GGGGG
GGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
OO
GGGGOO
GGGGGL
GGGGGGLLL
GGGGGGGGG
OO
GGGGOO
GGGGGPPPL
GGGGGGPLLL
GGGGGGGGG
Z
OOZZ
GGGGOOZ
GGGGGTTTL
GGGGGGGGG

Range 4

OO
OO
GGGG
GGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
OO
OO
GGGGP
GGGGGPP
GGGGGGGGGP
OO
OO
GGGGSST
GGGGGSSTT
GGGGGGGGG

Follow Ups

Yoshihiro ST Arrow

GGGGGS
GGGGGSS
GGGGGGS
GGGGGGP
GGGGGGGPP
GGGGGGGGGP
GGGGGS
GGGGGSS
GGGGGGS
GGGGGGPPPT
GGGGGGGPTT
GGGGGS
GGGGGSS
GGGGGGS
GGGGGSZ
GGGGGSSZZ
GGGGGGSZ
OO
OO
GGGGGSZ
GGGGGSSZZ
GGGGGGSZ

Bailing Out

J Base TSD

OO
OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
OO
OOJ
GGGGGGJ
GGGGGGGJJ
GGGGGGGGG
OO
OOJ
GGGGGGPPPJ
GGGGGGGPJJ
GGGGGGGGG
OO
OOJ
GGGGGGGGG

Imperial TSS / TSD-TSS

OO
OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
OO
OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGG
OO
OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGGGG

Pre-Yoshihiro Kaidan

OO
OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGG
OO
OO
GGGGGG
GGGGGGG
GGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGLL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGGL
GGGGGGGGG
OO
OO
GGGGGGZ
GGGGGGGZZ
GGGGGGGGZ
GGGGGGGGG

External Links

  • Watch Hitokage, one of the top TDS players in the world, perform the Yoshihiro SD starting at 1:11 in this video.